Some opt for ‘scorched earth’ policy in wake of defeat


First, a couple of caveats: The above Twitter account and its owner are real, and my apologies for the language employed.

Obviously, we have someone whose parents failed to instruct their offspring on the virtues of handling defeat gracefully.

While Donald Trump is certainly not who I had envisioned as presidential material when this process started oh, so long ago, I respect our system of law, the peaceful transition of power from one party to another and the fact that while the Electoral College may seem antiquated to some – especially a good number of Hillary Clinton supporters – it has a purpose.

Ms. Green is a graduate of the University of California at Berkeley, but it would appear that her course load was light on history and political science.

If she believes that the United States is now a case of “textbook fascism” because we will shortly have a republican president and a republican congress she may want to investigate Mussolini’s Italy (1922-1943) or Hitler’s Germany (1933-1945).

Other despotic states such as Spain and Portugal from the 1930s to the mid-1970s, Vichy France during World War II and Croatia under Ante Pavelić also offer vivid examples of what real fascism looks like.

The problem with the overuse of hyperbole is that eventually you come to believe the foolishness you’re blathering on about.

Ms. Green followed up her obscenity-laden rant of early Wednesday morning with the below:

“To fellow ladies & LGBT folks, POC (people of color), immigrants, and muslims (sic) scared for their future: you are loved. you are not alone. we. will. fight this.”

As I noted in a comment on an earlier story, there are more than a few folks out there who seem to want to believe that Trump’s election is the second coming of Kristallnacht.

In fact, one newspaper today actually published a story with the headline “Has the world forgotten the terrible lesson of Kristallnacht?

Trump may be many things, but he’s not another Hitler. There was only one Hitler. Yes, there was also a Stalin and a Mao and a Pol Pot, among others, but each was unique to their time and place.

And while we live in a very imperfect world, and class and societal antagonisms certainly exist, to suggest that we’re on the brink of a Third Reich-style regime in the US is either a devious rhetorical flourish or simplistic thinking.

I know a good number of people who voted for Donald Trump. None, that I know of, have ever expressed a desire for the US to be rid of gays, people of color, Muslims or legal immigrants.

Some have stated they would like immigration laws enforced more stringently.

I have a soft spot for those who are willing to do just about anything to make their way to our country, particularly when trying to escape appalling conditions, but I understand the desire of others that laws be followed. It doesn’t make them fascists, racists or any other derogatory term that those who disagree with them want to spew forth.

I’ve always liked the phrase “agree to disagree.” It says that while you and I may not see eye to eye on an issue, we respect one another’s right to differing opinions.

Let’s face it: there are a whole lot of people in the world whose views are, essentially, half-baked. But in the US they’re free to embrace whatever ideas they want, as long as they’re not harming others. That’s part of what has made the country different from many other parts of the world.

I’m hopeful that all those who promising to “fight” Trump’s election and insist on maligning individuals who simply exercised their right to vote will realize that in the end we all have to live together. Hopeful, but not overly optimistic.


9 thoughts on “Some opt for ‘scorched earth’ policy in wake of defeat

  1. Looking at commentators and comments in ‘The Guardian’ you would think it was the trump of doom rather than Donald Trump under discussion – or rather under a shed load of abuse of those who voted for him.
    Perhaps Ms. Green would like to look at this link rather than demonstrating the lacunae in her education.

  2. Before fanning ourselves into too high a dudgeon, it’s worth noting that the sort of intemperate post cited is not limited to peevish, or ill-bred, Democrats. I have been getting that sort of thing from supporters of Mr Trump for months. It would have been more on par with CBC’s excellent standard to suggest that such intemperate comments have no place in our discourse, period.

    I have high-school classmates who would flunk the brought-up-right-test in emails they have sent me since realizing I’d come out, and so had to be re-classified in their estimations as an eminently slurrable “Other.” And I knew their parents, too. and many of them felt the same way in their day. Just as mine did. I do not know their views on other Others.

    I am pleased to know the author’s friends do not include supporters of Mr Trump like Tony Perkins, head of the hate-group-classified Family Research Council, who wrote the antigay portions of the 206 GOP platform and recently commented how pleased he is to get no push-back from Mr Trump on Perkins’ plans to legalize discrimination, the way he did from Mitt Romney and John McCain. Or Perkins’ deputy, Peter Sprigg, who has called, for years, for the “exporting” of LGBT Americans to foreign points unknown; Alabama Chef Justice Roy Moore, who has written gays need to be rounded up and “put to the sword”; or the half-dozen unknown individuals who have sprayed-painted and keyed antigay slurs into the vehicles of North Carolina residents- this week. But such are out there, and they are crawling out from under rocks, antennae quivering in rage and lust for the brass ring that has so long eluded them- like Brian Brown, head of the near-dead National Organization for Marriage, suddenly bragging of hs new entree with the new administration’s team.

    I could go on.

    • Yes, you could go, which is an unfortunate reflection on a portion of our citizenry. There is no doubt that a segment of the pro-Trump crowd is crass, boorish and represents everything that I find reprehensible in a live-and-let-live society. Their words and actions are no less repugnant than those of the other side who stereotype Trump voters, call for overturning the election, etc.

      I also realize that LGBT Americans are not that far removed from fearing the loss of jobs and homes, being imprisoned and beaten, or worse, for their orientation, so I understand that it only takes one or two Neanderthals like Peter Sprigg or Roy Moore to put people on edge with inflammatory statements. At some point, hopefully much sooner rather than later, we, as a society, will learn to better marginalize those who attempt to use such enmity to gain favor.

      That said, I don’t think it’s fair or accurate to attach the bigotry of individuals such as Sprigg or Moore to the wide swath of Trump voters. I don’t know what motivates such disrespect and anger among some in our society, but unfortunately there are slugs on both sides, equally willing to wade through the filth to inflict as much pain as possible.

      Finally, I always appreciate your viewpoint, Lindsay. Our backgrounds may be slightly different, but I respect the acuity, perspective and depth evident in your blog.

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